Lyro Speaks Back: Update~ $350K Virtual Investment ‘Restatement’
0 Comments Published August 22nd, 2007 in Uncategorized.Lief Larson here. One of the founders of Lyro. Thanks for taking a look. If we lifted up the skirt on our long-term objectives, that wouldn’t be much fun now would it?
Plaxo is already following us. We launched web searchable digital business cards before they did. We had the social aspects before them. But that doesn’t matter. We like Plaxo. We even like Goliath LinkedIn. Both companies are good at what they do. We are focused on the small and independent businesses, the entrepreneurs, the consultants who wants to get more out of the web and have better visibility. Best of all, we’re asking for nothing in return. If we help you and you find the site useful, you might upgrade. It’s a pretty simple value proposition.
With regards to messages, our system is primarily open. The downside to open is that if anyone can message you freely (or you message others freely) we’d be setting up a system for abuse. Nobody has time for “hot webcam chicks” when you’re out trying to find new business and opportunity.
I’m glad you’d have a willingness to put a “Virtual $100k” behind us and I’m looking forward to putting that virtual check to good use!
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Thanks for the update and feedback Lief! I really do appreciate your business and it’s business model and agree with almost all your points. The low ‘virtual’ valuation was driven by nothing more than wondering where the market potential was given the two goliaths we’ve discussed. The irony is that I’ve been working on a site for sometime that is meant to address some of the weaknesses of the ‘blanket’ or everything to everybody approach by Linked In etc.
I’d like to increase the virtual investment to $350K. After all, us little guys have got to stick together.
Good luck and let us know how you get on with your great business: Lyro
Andrew
Founder - http://www.AdvisorGarage.com
I can’t tell you how much I love this business concept! I’m not 110% convinced about the capability to make significant amounts of investor revenues but frankly…that’s just not the point of this neat new business. So, let me tell you about “It’s Your Movie”. The basic idea is for the online community to fund, audition and vote for characters in a movie called “The Flirting Club”. It’s a complete mashup of a number of popular ideas…think “The Producers meets American Idol” and you are some of the way there!
Business Model:
- Members of the public can buy a ’stake’ in the movie of $10, $100, $100. What’s not clear on the site is what stakeholders get for their stake although the site does say the higher the stake the more ’say’ in the movie.
- Advertising is another revenue stream for “Its Our Movie” although as the site currently has a 4,000,000 Alexa ranking the revenue is likely to minimal at this point.
- Movie Rights and Sale: I could find no reference to movie rights or sale as it relates to stakeholders but it is a new business so that may appear in their FAQs.
Some Core Functionality/Elements:
- Auditioning: To audition for a part, members download the script, choose a character and video themselves. After uploading the Audition to http://www.youtube.com / http://www.metacafe.com / http://www.dailymotion.com the code is then re-pasted within the “Its Our Movie” Website so the community can review and vote on the auditions
- Characters: A summary of each character is included in the site and video auditions can be added against each character
- Voting: Members can vote on a 1-10 scale for each audition. They will also be adding the ability for people to vote via text message/SMS
- Photos/Videos: Photos and videos of each person auditioning
- Member blogs
- Member forums (Is this a Drupal site with a skin? Hummm)
Likes:
Sometimes new business are not about money…OK, rarely new businesses are not about money because money is oxygen for startups but in this case, its about the excitement of being involved in creating a movie. Doesn’t EVERYONE want to be involved in creating a movie? Even if it’s a bad movie for goodness sake. Now here’s a little prediction, as momentum grows for this new site then it won’t be long before Simon Cowell and the rest get wind of it. Before you can say “Teletubbies” I’m guessing that this process may move from the web to other mediums. When that happens then this could become a significant opportunity for the founders. If I was a stakeholder, I’d be looking for some reassurances that I’m buying a tiny piece of that potential success.
Dislikes/Suggestions:
- Be explicit about what stakeholders are getting! It’s great that you’ve raised $100K but if you want to hit the $1M target then I would outline what those folks were getting…really clearly!
- My understanding is that the Director is Alex Jovy. Is it THE Alex Jovy that received an Oscar-nomination for his film Holiday Romance who also went on to produce and direct the thriller Sorted starring Matthew Rhys and Jason Donovan? If so, let us know people! At the moment it looks like some obscure guys idea that is absolutely exciting but we need to know it’s legitimate and this isn’t paying for someone’s extended vacation in the South of Spain.
Additional Opportunities:
- Plug this into the TV machine and turn it into a show.
My Virtual Investment:
With my virtual $1M, I would personally stake a virtual $500K providing someone gave me virtual percentages of the revenue.
Interested in other articles about Its Our Movie?
- http://www.crowdwisdom.de/2007/08/15/crowd-casting-fuer-einen-spielfilm-itsyoumovie/
- http://www.klhagen.com/provokingthought/2007/08/using-creative-new-ideas-crowdsourcing.html
Andrew - Founder
http://www.AdvisorGarage.com/community
Lyro is a new web based application that allows people to create and share online, searchable digital ‘business cards’ across multiple. It isn’t so much a social network as much as personal ‘branding’ and broadcasting but saying that, as well as the core elements of creating a digital online business card (think a micro Plaxo) there are some typical social networking elements such as people creating interest and geography groups. I would really like to hear back from the Lyro folks because I’m not seeing how this differs substantially from Plaxo, especially given Plaxo’s recent moves into the ‘connections’ territory and their longstanding digital business card creation, sharing and searchability. If I’m missing something, let me know!
Business Model:
Four account types with increasing functionality.
- FREE: 1 Free Card and 3 messages that can be sent to other members per day
- Basic: $5/Month - 3 Cards, 7 messages per day, 50MB file storage, professional bio, logo on card
- Premium: $9/Month - 5 Cards, 15 messages, 75MB storage, other elements of basic plus notes on card
- Elite: $20/Month - 8 cards, 25 messages, 200MB storage, all other elements of Premium plus saved searches and visible email addresses
Some Core Functionality:
- Create searchable online digital business card
- Internal email to other card members according to numbers above
- A Dashboard ‘Pocket’: Drag and drop business cards that interest you for future retrieval
- Download card
- Create Groups - and invite others to join your group
- Invite Friends
- Send card to friend
- RSS feeds of cards etc
Likes:
The user interface and usability has been created with thought. Navigating and using the site is very intuitive. More focused on developing new business relationships than Plaxo with similar functionality to Plaxo early days plus some tried and tested social networking elements.
Dislikes/Suggestions::
- I just am finding it a real challenge to see this as a step change from a very ‘early days’ Plaxo and we of course, already have Plaxo and a significant number of people have been using it for sometime. It is true that Lyro is less about creating your own online contact book from your existing contacts and has a focus on creating new contacts through joining groups plus browsing and reaching out to members.
- Although the usability is nice and simple, the interface has a lack of ‘personality’ i.e. it’s more functional than sticky. With Linked In there are a number of hooks that get you diving into the site and staying around. Lyro does not really have those hooks yet but it is early days…maybe version 2 guys?
- I understand the need for a business model but limiting the amount of messages is limiting the perceived value of the system. By all means encourage upgrade through a strong more personalized ‘branding’ on the site but have people use it…alot…so they want to improve their presence and are prepared to pay for it. Key to that is messaging each other…take off the ludicrous limits, get real activity and they’ll upgrade when this site becomes a staple of their online activity. You are restricting your growth!
Additional Opportunities:
- Consider adding some personalized scripts for each member so they can add the fact that they are a Lyro member to their websites or blogs.
Last thought:
My Virtual Investment:
With my virtual $1M, I would personally broadcast my interest to the tune of a virtual $100K.
Interested in other articles about My DNA?
- http://www.coolbusinessideas.com/archives/lyro_cards.html
- http://getentrepreneurial.com/recommendations/lyro_online_business_cards.html
Andrew - Founder
http://www.AdvisorGarage.com/community
And now for something completely different! Not a neat and innovative website but an actual, real product…something you can touch…well, not so much ‘touch’ as smell. My DNA fragrance is a new company which offers individualized perfume based on your own individual DNA. Each fragrance is a one of a kind product which My DNA creates after you submit a swab of your saliva. My DNA then uses a patented and revolutionary new process to create your individual fragrance which arrives in a clinically approved 4oz. aluminum bottle with a fine midst sprayer and if you want to do it properly, create your own bottle too. As My DNA puts it, it’s not self centered, it’s self scented!
And yes, I know the swab sounds kind of a gross way of giving My DNA your DNA but you only do it once and it’s alot more pleasant than some of the alternative ways of giving up your DNA.
Business Model:
- A one time swab kit and lab fee: $99
- Your own 4oz bottle for women: $89
- Your own 4oz bottle for men: $59
Some Core Functionality:
- One time swab process to give your DNA via a kit my DNA send then just re-order
- Patented fragrance development
Likes:
Why smell like a guy who’s played polo all day? Why smell like a suit designer? Wouldn’t it be better to have a fragrance that is in tune with your own smell…sort of like buying white wine to go with the fish? I’m not sure that metaphor actually works but as regular fragrances are created without ‘you’ in mind then how can they compliment your personal fragrance notes? Alright, that’s enough…my real point is this is different and believe or not, my belief is that there are enough people out there who will make a concept like this work and help create a sustainable profitable business.
Dislikes/Suggestions::
- The website needs to be significantly improved. The design is fine but not in keeping with the potential strength of where this brand needs to position itself. It looks like a website created by a one week contractor. This takes away from the ‘Selling a Dream’ approach and brand that will translate into real and significant revenue. And guys, please use the whole page and pretty please take off the ‘Disney’esk’ sparkles that appear when you move to a navigation button.
- The price point is a lot less than I expected. This is NOT a business where you gain traction through a lower price point and increase your prices later. Increase your prices now! Double your prices and you should see an increase in volume.
- In the website descriptor at the top of the browser it says ‘Discount Perfume, Discount cologne’…no, No, NO! People don’t spend money on a unique and exclusive fragrance if they’re told it’s discount. Make it super exclusive…better yet, get some photos at some exhibitions with celebs. Seriously - avoid discount and double your prices.
- Allow website users to refer others to your site - you’ll be glad you did.
- DOUBLE YOUR PRICE!
- The only real worry I have is ‘is this real?’ Will a fragrance be unique because of my DNA or just unique because it get’s pulled out of that moments fragrance catalog - a fragrance lottery if you will. And if it is created specifically for me and will smell better because of it. Prove it on your website or at least outline the rationale.
Additional Revenue Opportunities:
- Consider launching personalized shower gels, soaps etc
My Virtual Investment:
With my virtual $1M, I would bath in my very own citrus notes a virtual $250K and pass it over.
http://www.mydnafragrance.com/
Interested in other articles about My DNA?
- http://tracingthetribe.blogspot.com/2007/08/dna-personalized-music-fragrance.html
- http://www.mundochica.com/obten-el-aroma-de-tu-adn/
Andrew - Founder
http://www.AdvisorGarage.com/community
Bringsome is a pre-beta, very early stage company and website that has ‘legs’. By legs, I mean it has the potential to expand it’s service offering and revenue streams as the business grows. So what is BringSomes business? Helping people connect together to BringSome products from one country to another. No, don’t think illicit drug trade mules importing bad white powder from obscure countries, think someone with a passion for flavored liquid non-dairy coffee creamer in China that would pay a small fee if anyone from the US happens to be about to jump on a plane to Beijing. Imagine the scenario ~Mum, Dad and the kids have decided to live and work abroad but little Johnnie has a twinkie fetish - that’s where BringSome comes in. But not only that, given the price differences across country boundaries, the enterprising can use BringSome to make some extra cash.
Business Model:
BringSome does not, at this point, take a ‘piece of the action’ i.e. there are no fees for ads, no percentage off the top if someone ‘buys’ a product from another member, in fact the revenue model is currently limited to:
- Paypal donations
- Ads (Google and a few locally generated image ads)
Some Core Functionality:
- Place ads and a little ‘please bring me X because’ note along with a product shot of the item you need
- Contacts are kept private. If you can deliver the desired product, you can ‘email’ the requestor via the site and sort out how to trade
- Very simple, quick and easy signup. No long ‘tell me your inside leg measurement’ forms.
- Personal message center along with forums, a place to ‘Hurrah’ when you get the adored item
- Search by text or location / country or just browse
- Polls and Who’s Online
Likes:
A nice niche which could be easily expanded as BringSome gains traction. The BringSome system is beta and somehow the lack of control and member driven content gives it a real people helping people feel. Makes me feel closer and less removed from the community. It would be great if Dave could somehow keep that ‘feel’ as the site scales.
Dislikes:
Just a few questions/concerns:
- There’ s very little traction building tools within the site i.e ‘Send to Friend’ or similar on each ad or page. There are some slight elements of bookmarks and one overall ‘ Send to Friend’ but that is site wide rather than on each product. I would recommend more member driven traction building tools especially as I may not be traveling soon to Beijing but may have a friend who is. A perfect opportunity to send the ‘Creamer’ ad to them so they can help out the Beijing creamer fetishist!
- The site requires some logistical challenges on the back end to work. Example, I’m travelling to Beijing and want to take that desired creamer. I email the Beijing member and we agree where to meet so I can give them the item. This means I have to take time out while in Beijing and find a place that I may not know to meet a person I may not know to give them creamer. In some ways this could actually be quite interesting. It could also be a pain in the rear. One idea - I would definitely bring the creamer to Beijing in exchange for a local person to show me briefly around Beijing. A great way to see a new place and perhaps make a new contact or friend.
- Is there any responsibility for the site to outline legal restrictions? Are there certain goods that are illegal in one country but not in another? If this is left to the individuals to figure out, there could be some issues down the line for a small number of members and perhaps the site (?)
- Web 2.0 sites are tough to really get going even in one country - for BringSome to work it requires decent numbers of members in multiple countries which is tougher! But you know what…I think Dave and BringSome will actually do it and I think it will because of the member driven, personal ‘feel’ that the site has through user created ads without the ‘Ebay’ish’ template other sites have.
Suggestions:
- Lost revenue opportunity: Not requiring members to set a finders fee for the item they need and taking a little piece or charging for ads. But perfectly understandable as it’s very early days for BringSome. Something tells me the site will probably go that route when they reach what they feel is critical mass.
- The site requires the ad creator to write where the item they need is from. There is a field for their location but it would help ‘matches’ if members can search not only the requestor’s location but where the requested item is from. So, I’m in the US and I’m about to travel to China. If I go search China ads I’ll need to wade through ads from people in China wanting items from everywhere before finding ads for items needed from the US. Not a problem now as it has a small membership, will be an issue when BringSome skyrockets!
My Virtual Investment:
With my virtual $1M, I would BringSome virtual investment of $2o0K! Especially if someone can bring me some Cadbury’s Crunchies from the United Kingdom to the United States (NJ/NY). Crunchies in New York just DON’T taste the same! Try not to sit on them during the flight over, they melt!
Interested in other articles about BringSome.com?
- http://www.coolbusinessideas.com/archives/bring_some_over.html
- http://gridskipper.com/travel/everywhere/bring-some-foreign-goodness-finder-282176.php
- http://www.psfk.com/2007/07/hungry-expats-rejoice.html
Andrew - Founder
http://www.AdvisorGarage.com/community
TableXChange is exactly what the name implies - a website that helps people secure hard to get reservations at some of the most exclusive restaurants. Want to impress by taking a date to Il Mulino’s to sample the divine Italian food of Chefs Fernando and Gino Masci but didn’t think to book ahead? If you’re lucky then you can buy someone’s existing reservation - the price for a secured reservation for two this Friday at 8pm is $35 bucks. Not too outrageous when you consider that’s the cost of three jars of Pomodoro Pasta Sauce through Il Mulino’s website.
Business Model:
Sellers can list as many reservations as they wish on TableXChange. There is a $40 cap on the amount that they can charge reservation ‘buyers’. How does TableXChange make money? Simple, for every reservation ’sold’ TableXChange makes 12% of the agreed price. If the reservation does not sell, no harm no foul, it was free to list and the failed ’seller’ does not owe TableXChange any cash at all. So, sell a reservation for $30, then TableXChange takes a $3.60 cut. You get $26.40 - not bad since you didn’t actually pay anything for the reservation - just five minutes on the telephone. Even at AT&T rates - that’s still a pretty good deal!
Some Core Functionality:
- Free to list and free to search by restaurant, date, time, neighborhood and price
- Free to cancel the sale at any time as long as it’s not sold.
- No personal information is shared between parties - accept probably the name of the reservation i.e. Table for 2 for Smith but this only occurs when the reservation is sold
- Only three (3) reservations max at the same restaurant per night allowed
- Payment within 48 hours of reservation sale
- Pay and receive payment via Paypal. Easy!
Likes:
A neat idea! Could do favors to buyers, sellers and restaurants especially if restaurants fill more tables if reservation makers sell their reservations rather than being ‘no shows’. As a busy married guy the ability to get reservations at the last minute at great restaurants could really help…especially for this special days when I know I should have booked 45 days beforehand, but let’s face it, who really thinks that far ahead?
Dislikes:
Just a few questions/concerns:
- As there is a $40 cap on the reservation price and a maximum of three reservations per restaurant per night, the very ’special’ restaurant, in high demand will not be at the real market rate and should be snapped up quickly. This means that the really great restaurants that should ‘drive’ the adoption of this site may not actually be on the site for too long. If they are not there, why should I go?
- At some point these guys should try to integrate into a larger site that offers users the ability to see if there are reservations available without needing to buy it through the system. It would be plain annoying if I find I could have just called and booked direct for free.
- One obvious one is that TableXChange is just New York City and the Hamptons at this time. More place please.
Suggestions:
- Lost revenue opportunity: Members need paypal, they refer people to paypal but don’t use a paypal referral number. Odd! They could be making additional revenue from paypal for referals. This doesn’t cost members anything but is a ‘thank you’ from paypal.
- The restaurant listings do not include restaurant website links, descriptions or reviews. I know I should know every restaurant on the site by reputation but the reality is, I don’t! If I’m going to pay someone $30 for a reservation, I’d first like to check out the restaurant, the Zagat rating (here’s another potential revenue stream for TableXChange) and customer reviews.
My Virtual Investment:
With my virtual $1M, I would virtually invest $250K! Today New York and the Hamptons, Tomorrow the United States, and Friday the World! There are some obvious spinoff opportunities but I’ll leave that for dessert!
Andrew - Founder
http://www.AdvisorGarage.com/community



































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